The Ultimate Privilege Comic

8/4/2017 2 Comments

The Ultimate Privilege Comic

Discussion Questions:

Why is Brad more successful than Suzy?
Suzy's teams often have less players and resources compared to Brad’s, what is the source of this disparity? What are the short-term and long-term results?
How does the culture of the ultimate community implicitly support the disparities between Suzy and Brad’s careers?
What are the stereotypes surrounding female athletes? What stereotypes does Ultimate have about female players?
How does Ultimate at each level (youth, college, club, AUDL) perpetuate gender disparities in athletics?
How is the language used towards female athletes different than the language used towards male athletes?

2 Comments

Why Does Name Matter?

8/22/2017 12:10:25 pm

1) Playing on teams for a longer time, testosterone levels, bone structure, and muscle mass.
2) There was more interest amongst boys to play the sport, so there was a team Brad could play for competitively. Obviously playing for a better team makes you better as a player.
3) There is a professional league for men. Oh wait, Jesse Shofner plays in it. It's actually for anyone good enough to make the teams. Suzy should stop blaming society and be better.
4) Stereotypes surrounding female athletes are that they are generally slower and less explosive than men. These stereotypes stem from biological differences between the sexes.
5) Ultimate perpetuates gender disparities at each level by allowing women to play on men's teams. Hell, the division is named "Open" and not "Men's." The professional league even has a female player in it. If the women want to make the AUDL teams, they should get better. Obviously that is difficult due to the biological differences between women and men, but that doesn't mean they should just be put onto AUDL teams because they are women.
6) In my experience, the language is basically the same.

I must say, you wrote an incredibly one-sided, unfair comic with laughably leading questions. If you are mad that women's teams are treated differently than men's teams in terms of streaming or practice times or anything like that, I get it and I agree with you. However, if you are mad that an AUDL team cuts a woman and accepts a man, maybe, just maybe, they aren't sexist assholes and instead are choosing the bet players at the tryout. You want to make an AUDL team? Stop blaming society and everyone else and just be better. I'm a guy that can't make an AUDL team, but I sure as hell am not blaming the AUDL team for not choosing me instead of better players. If I want to make that team, I need to be better too, just like Suzy.

solo

1/6/2018 09:49:45 am

This is incredibly unfair. Not every decision to cut a woman from an AUDL team is sexist. Not every decision by a handler to not throw to a woman is a because she is a woman.

I played on a mixed club team last season. One of my team mates was a woman who was a hyper-crusader for gender equity. This same team mate kept insisting that she was not being thrown to because she was a woman. It would instead cause our well-intended male players (myself included) to force low percentage throws to said woman because "she hadn't received the disc in a while". In the end, her attitude became TOXIC for the team, and I would even say for the overall GE movement.

You can not enlist male supporters in the cause for gender equity by alienating males. Not every instance of a woman not getting the disc or not making a team is a microcosmic for sexism.

Sexism exists. Absolutely it does -- no reasonable minded person could disagree with that. But labeling a perfectly egalitarian event as sexist lends itself more to the "boy who cried wolf" analogy than it does in actually recruiting for your cause.

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